Aquard
October 5th, 2011

Aquard

Why does Aquaman make a big point of telling people he doesn’t talk to fish in Geoff Johns’ new Aquaman #1?

TALKING TO FISH IS GREAT.

I’d spend every day at the beach, just chilling with sharks and getting whales to come close so people could take pictures and making jokes with dolphins and riding on turtles’ backs like I’m surfing.

Aquaman, don’t try so hard.

-cof

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  1. Kachi

    And apparently I’m the only one in the shop that didn’t like Aquaman #1. My friends tried to make me feel better by saying “Well, he means more to you than most people.”

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  2. Jordjevic

    No joke there is no animal on EARTH i would want to talk to more than sharks. Every other animal, i kinda know their deal. I want to get inside a Shark’s mind. Probably would be a lot like getting to know Batman.

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  3. Edward

    But three of those aren’t fishes?

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  4. algeya

    it was the perfect time to introduce the OUTRAGEOUS aquaman. maybe in the next reboot….

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    KB_SBI Reply:

    That’s what they should have done. The comic seems to be ok but come on… I have jet to find any one that doesn’t like “BatB’s” OUTRAGEOUS! Aquaman. He’s tons of fun, can make swords and shields out of water, is super strong and has more personality than any Aquaman if ever seen before.

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    Ross Reply:

    But could BatB Aquaman carry his own book? A good supporting character a lead does not make. The OUTRAGEOUS thing would get annoying or repetitive after a while.

    I’m not saying I wouldn’t read it for a little while. But for an extended run?

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  5. Matt Thorne

    Wait, I’m confused. He said he doesn’t talk to fish. But CAN he talk to fish? I mean if he wanted?

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    Matt Wells Reply:

    Aquaman doesn’t talk to fish. That would imply a dialogue between fish and man. No, Aquaman COMMANDS fish. And they are compelled to obey.

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  6. Nigthwolf

    Aquaman can talk tp fish, but fish CAN’T talk back, he said it himself, dolphins are a whole different story though.

    I don’t see how this version of him is trying too hard, especially when we used to have him longhaired, shirtless, with a beard and a harpoon hand! THAT is trying too hard.

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  7. gary#21

    Whales, dolphins and turtles aren’t fish…

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  8. algeya

    cmon talking to fish is cool, Jimbei is one of the coolest caharacters in one piece and he has the same powers of aquaman he even apologize to them when they are summoned

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    ryan Reply:

    i think part of the reason jinbei is so awesome is because water is such a crucial thing in one piece. almost the entire world is covered in water. most of the super powered characters are weak to the ocean. jinbei isn’t powerful, he’s a damn force of nature.

    when i see a cartoon with aquaman, he doesn’t feel nearly as awe inspiring. i don’t dislike him by any means, BatB aquaman is a riot, but at the same time i don’t think “oh shit, it’s AQUAMAN!” whenever he appears.

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  9. Allegretto

    Geoff Johns is such a child.

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  10. mathematicscore

    As usual, you nail it; Aquaman 1 was trying so hard it hurts.

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  11. adam ford

    Allegretto and mathematicscore, can I be in your posse? Kachi, too? There aren’t words for how much I hated Aquaman #1, but I expected it to be shite because, well, because Geoff Johns, right?

    I’m thinking at the moment if there’s any love for DC or Marvel’s characters left, I’m gonna get that love from all the noncomics media, especially the kids’ cartoons, which so often get it in a way the comics never do.

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  12. zark169

    I think Matt Wells above has it right. Aquaman commands fish to do things, but he doesn’t actually hold conversations with them. I supposed most of them would be too simpleminded to actually talk to him. Either that or they’re going to take Aquaman in a Namor sort of direction where he’s just a stuck up douche to everyone, all day every day.

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  13. AdamYJ

    Okay, so he doesn’t talk to fish, but he does boss them around.

    “Hey, you! Yeah, you the fish! Come over here, I need some help fighting Ocean Master!”

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  14. A Silver Mt. Paektu

    Aquaman and the fish aren’t on speaking terms. Last time A tried talking to a bunch of fish they made fun of him and called him “landie” and “lungbreather” and stuff.

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  15. Dan

    Instead of saying that Aquaman doesn’t talk to fish, they should make it canon that all characters with _______ – control actually have to talk to _________. For example, Magneto spends about twenty minutes yelling at a steel girder before it finally gets off its ass and flies through a building.

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    mathematicscore Reply:

    I like when Jack Hawksmoor tells buildings to fall on supervillains.

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  16. JoJo

    Good grief, he can’t win with you people! He’s either lame or trying too hard to prove he’s not.

    And he doesn’t TALK to fish, he raps with them.

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  17. Nataniel

    Guys, when I read stuff like this, I realize that I just I love you, in the less homo-erotic possible way. Or maybe even a little. Thanks for squeezing my feeling safter reading that issue in just three panels. “Geoff Jonhs is such a child” indeed.

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  18. StripeyC

    The problem is he is a lame character. He can’t compete with the others, and we all know this but they keep trying to sell him.

    It’s time they just slowly played him down to a bit character. Let him show up in the groups or the occasional cameo in someone elses book. When you try to make a comic just about him you will end up making him look lame, or trying too hard.

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    AdamYJ Reply:

    No, the problem is more that he’s actually a really fun character when not taken all that seriously (there’s a reason that people respond so positively to his Brave and the Bold counterpart), but they keep trying to get people to take him seriously. As I see it, Aquaman’s at his most enjoyable when he exists in a Silver Age fantasy version of the ocean where there’s no shortage of pirates and sea monsters to fight and any sea animal will come to you with a thought (even the odd fresh water creature like an electric eel). Yet, DC Comics keeps giving us serious, broody, angsty Aquaman that’s always dealing with pollution or Atlantean politics or whatnot.

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    chrishaley Reply:

    +1

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    adam ford Reply:

    AYJ I was just thinking today that Aquaman is basically a children’s book character. You ever seen The Octonauts? It’s everything that Aquaman could and should be. Their motto (“Explore! Rescue! Protect!”) is everything I want from superheroes. http://www.theoctonauts.com/

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    AdamYJ Reply:

    Most comic book superheroes are “children’s book characters”. Some of us just grow up too much to appreciate that.

    chrishaley Reply:

    If the idea of being super-strong, tough, and able to have adventures underwater sounds lame to you then I think you are the one that needs to rethink your world view, because that would be fucking awesome.

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  19. Rizz Rustbolt

    “Oh, you have an army of thugs at your beck and call? That’s cute.

    You know what my posse is?

    SHARKS MUTHAFUCKER!”

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  20. petes12

    I come here and feel like I’m the only one that kinda likes Johns’ ‘stuck between 2 worlds’ semi-depressed aquaman :P

    Nothing wrong with other interpretations either, though I think BatB’s flamboyant Aquaman is something that really works best, you know, in that show.

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    chrishaley Reply:

    I think there’s a big difference between depression and ennui/uncertainty about whether or not your making the right decisions in your life.

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    petes12 Reply:

    I did say ‘semi’

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  21. petes12

    I guess to me it didnt seem like Johns was making him ‘badass’ so much as though his joke status has kinda hurt his feelings haha. Which was kind of endearing to me.

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    chrishaley Reply:

    I totally enjoyed Aquaman #1.

    I liked the “let’s just confront the stupid things stupid people on the internet say to make fun of Aquaman head on” approach they took.

    Having said that though, I don’t want the whole series to be like that where every issue he’s having to deal with some goon who’s like, “Talk to my fish sandwich, Aqualoser derp derp!”

    I think the best thing they can do for the character is to have addressed it and gotten it out of the way in the first issue and then from there on out just focus on telling exciting/entertaining/interesting stories with the character.

    I mean, this is basically true across the board, but if you want us to like Aquaman, show us how great he is through his actions and reactions to adversity, don’t just tell us “Aquaman is great!”

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  22. Lightning

    I think Johns is taking too much of the “Hal & Barry” approach to Aquaman which is basically just telling anyone who doesn’t like the character to go fuck themselves.

    I mean, really, everyone in the issue who didn’t like Aquaman or made fun of him was made out to be some complete shithead, and it seems to me like he’s trying a bit too hard.

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